You still get a "oneness" with your hands as opposed to a straight up baseball grip. tgoodspe1991 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 26, 2020, chouls19 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 5, 2020, johngalt312 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 3, 2020, BAlberstadt posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, November 16, 2020, Allergic2Birdies posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 17, 2020, By Billiards? Once again, thanks everyone. It is not importand HOW, HOW MANY that counts. amazing to me that I was able to shoot some of the scores I did with such a crappy grip but that is why I could shoot 75 one day and shoot 87 the next. Steve Jones used a reverse overlap, and Furyk uses a double overlap. 'School of Golf' host Martin Hall has a tip everyone can use to hit the ball farther just by changing your grip. i've heard that i may be losing some of the feel by not overlapping or inter-locking and i don;t doubt it. Great question. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. This is not bad advice as there are several benefits to the ten-finger golf grip. Irons: Mizuno MP-54 5i-PW, Shafts: XP105 R300 Otherwise, just apply the same process but with opposite hands. Fuse/Corbis/Getty Images. Although the most common grip among professional golfers is the overlapping or "Vardon" grip, there are some notable golfers who have used the interlocking grip. There are so many ways to play this game and what works for others doesn't always work for you. Overlapping: Numerous overlapping grips are available. The Cure CX2 putter, Thanks everyone, I appreciate the time and effort you guys put into these posts. By Generally, golf clubs should come with a standard grip, however, “all hands are not equal”—as the expression goes. A great way to increase your sense of clubface control is to practice with a split grip. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport. If you are new to golf, you have very likely been told to hold the golf club with all ten fingers. Either way, took some lessons last year, played some of my best golf but was still lacking consistency - more importantly, developed a nasty case of the hooks with my driver and woods. It's a personal choice and I'd say if you're playing well with it stick to it. I often wonder if either would be better than the 10 finger grip I use. I started using the 10 finger grip when I first started playing golf. "Non rinunciare mai quello Titleist 917F 15* w/Tour AD Di If anyone has any pga pros names off the top of there head that have had success with the grip, I'd appreciate some names so I could look them up. I use a Vardon grip and always have. This grip technique is named after the great Harry Vardon, who popularized it in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. I'm 57 and started playing 49 years ago. As explained at the Perfect Golf Swing Review, many golf instructors recommend a baseball grip for children, senior golfers or female golfers.They believe that it creates the possibility of a golfer getting greater leverage. [/quote] Yes the grip does feel good, but that probably has alot to do with the fact I've been using it for a while. 'School of Golf' host Martin Hall has a tip everyone can use to hit the ball farther just by changing your grip. And there are some advantages to each depending on the type of golfer you are. I don't use a glove. I played that way for years but once I got serious about golf switched. The biggest problem to overcome on full shots was hooking a lot of shots, but adjusting hand positions and bending my clubs 1/2-1* flatter has corrected this. [the “baseball” grip (holding what appears to be a putter)] The “baseball grip,” as the 10-finger grip is also known, is frowned upon because it requires more of a commitment to move the arms correctly in a swing. You must understand what a grip can and can't do, and how to get the most from it. That leaves me with 8 fingers on the club. The Interlocking Grip – Which Is Best? Putter: Oddessey Tank Versa #7. Many golf grip tips that you read will end right there, but it is important that also understand how to practice the proper golf grip.   Your previous content has been restored. Although the most common grip among professional golfers is the overlapping or "Vardon" grip, there are some notable golfers who have used the interlocking grip. If you search the Internet for “double-overlap grip,” chances are good that you will get a lot of hits for the words “overlap” and “grip”… and virtually no useful information on the double-overlap grip itself. This grip places the club in the fingers and is the grip most likely to be taught by golf instructors. TM M3 3W Matrix Ozik HD6 S, Srixon 565 5-P PX LZ 5.5 The baseball grip, sometimes called the ten finger grip, is preferred by beginners. You even have the odd guy here and there (like Josh Broadway) with a left hand low grip for full swings. - G, bob estes used it for awhile but has since gone back to traditional. After, just move your finger around until the grip feels comfortable and you should be all set. Even with the differing hand positions of Natural Golf and Moe Norman – their concepts of the swing being on a Single Plane was similar. 917 D2 w/Diamana S+ 60g I am just seriously OCD.[/b][/color]. I recently took up golf about a year and a half ago and have just switched to Taylormade burner 2.0 irons. If anything, I think a 10 finger grip would more likely affect how good you can get and not necessarily how consistent you can be. I have played with him more than 50 times and he was between 75 and 88 every single time with the most consistent shot pattern and ball striking that I have witnessed. Wedges: Titleist SM5 50*,56*, 60* I think it takes the same skill and mentality to keep your hands acting as one unit if it's overlapped, interlocked or ten finger. Tour Edge Exotics CB F2 PRO 15.5* Limited/Speeder 757 EVO 7.1X (Gene Sauers club) I just couldn't feel the club...like others said,play what works for you. Other hands a shortening of the club (the trail side is closer to the club head), there is very little difference with a good 10-finger grip and overlapping grip. If your hands are medium to big, go with the overlap grip. Want to learn more about the vertical golf swing and my Peak Performance Golf swing? To place your hands on the handle using the Vardon Overlap, take the little finger on the trailing hand and place it between the index and middle finger on the lead hand (for right-handed golfers, the lead hand is the left). This grip is … Vokey TVD 60* iBlade replacement? a few years ago i broke a bone in my little finger and everytime i try to do an overlap, its very uncomfortable. Having recently changed my grip from interlocking to overlapping, I can tell you about my experience of what it was like to change grips. The second way, would be to have your right pinky and left index finger interlock with one another. Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy use the interlocking grip, as did the legendary Jack Nicklaus throughout his career. Texsport, Mizuno GT180 10.5*/Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 X (I beleieve that Phil Rodgers may teach a 10 finger grip for his style of flop shots) I have always used the baseball or 10 finger grip since I started and got extremely used to it and never thought anything of it. Billiards? I also will add that I am 34 and had never gripped the club properly until I met Slicefixer. Scratch JMO Grind Don White 56*/DG X-100 Several functions may not work. Well basically, there are three common golf gripping styles familiar amongst avid golfers; the Overlapping Grip, Interlocking Grip, and Baseball Grip. The 10 Finger Golf Grip: Best Technique for Beginner - To get a powerful yet controlled swing in golf, the player needs to recognize properly in holding the golf club. [/quote] What grip was widely used pre Vardon? [quote name='HawkeyeDan' timestamp='1421720577' post='10780465'] How it accomplishes that goal – and how it affects your swinging motion – is more complex. But golf is all about being comfortable with your game and its starts when the club isnt moving. My feeling is that if you tend to be the kind of golfer that has or is going to have your hands in conflict during the swing, it doesn't matter what grip you use. [/quote] not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. In one of the youtube videos, Moe said the lead arm is in the control, and the trail Switch from 10 finger to overlap grip - Single Axis Golf Forum Including some local pros I play with! dumbell. Bob Rosburg, Moe Norman, and others have used the 10 finger grip. People with weaker hands and forearms may also benefit from the 10-finger grip. From there, slide the little finger of your right hand into the space between the index and middle finger of your left hand. I have small hands with fat fingers so it never felt comfortable to interlock and overlap sometimes my index finger would slip off plus I was playing baseball at the time and changing grips just felt weird. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. TM SIM Max 10.5* Atmos Blue 65S Titleist 718 AP2s Grip - 10-finger, Overlapping, Interlocking? I am 17 years old 6'2'' and weigh 185 lbs. There are three main grips used by golfers: the Vardon grip, the interlocking grip and the 10-finger (or baseball) grip. Overlap vs Interlock Gripping Method. Last night I was reading several articles about the ten finger grip and why it is not as terrible as many people think. Good luck. Vardon Grip | Overlap Grip. The overlap grip can sometimes be referred to as the Vardon grip as well. They promoted a 10-finger grip. The grip is your only contact with the club. Both have their pros and cons. Really? What grip was widely used pre Vardon? 4W: Cobra BioCell+ 16* Project X 6.0 I started using the 10 finger grip when I first started playing golf. I'm not really biased towards either one and am considering going back to baseball grip my senior year...we'll just have to see which is more comfortable -- but I did shoot lower scores with the interlocking. An overlap golf grip takes the right pinky finger and places it on top of the gap between the index finger and middle finger on the left hand. So I had the driver re-gripped with a KZG undersized grip. Never let anybody bully you into doing something that feels wrong.....there's no 'right' or 'wrong' grip. A picture of the grip is shown on the right. The very nature of this hold heightens your awareness of hand placement and helps you maintain stability in your grip. The truth of the matter is, neither is better or worse. With the baby goat teeing it up, I bet many are wondering what he’s gaming. Proponents point to its use by Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods – arguably the two greatest players in history – as evidence of the interlocking grip… Vardon Grip | Overlap Grip. Now the two strongest digits at going to be the thumb and index finger of each hand. This is not bad advice as there are several benefits to the ten-finger golf grip. Only time and experimentation over a fair amount of play will dictate your findings. With an interlocking grip, your pinky and index finger are tangled up. Tried overlap, tried interlock... Nope... No joy. [quote name='Dinosaur' timestamp='1421720794' post='10780485'] [quote name='HawkeyeDan' timestamp='1421720577' post='10780465'] I never, in 18 months of using the overlap, hit the ball as well as I did with the 10 finger. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. Vokey SM5 46* The ten-finger is a very strong grip which can promote a hook. Some teachers like to advocate that junior players use the 10-finger grip, with the goal of switching to the overlap or interlock later. Garrett77, February 23, 2010 in Instruction & Academy. Interlocking Vs 10 Finger Golf Grip. I guess where I'm heading is that the grip change was good for me because I didn't have a very good grip to begin with - it was waaaay too strong and caused some inconsistencies that I had to fix through timing. After, just move your finger around until the grip feels comfortable and you should be all set. From there, slide the little finger of your right hand into the space between the index and middle finger of your left hand. The very nature of this hold heightens your awareness of hand placement and helps you maintain stability in your grip. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport. I am right handed. Some of the main features of both types of grips are compared below. The purpose of a golf grip is very simple – to help you keep a firm hold on the club during your swing with as little tension as possible. I changed because I wanted to completely get away from what I was used to (which was wrong for several reasons, not saying interlocking or overlapping is better or worse), and overlapping is what 90% of the pga pros use so why not do what the majority does. Saw this just now on Reddit. Interestingly, while the vast majority of good golfers prefer the overlap, the two greatest golfers of all-time— Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus —both use the interlock. The other common type of golf grip is the 10-finger grip. Also known as the overlap grip the Vardon grip is named after the famous golfer Harry Vardon who helped popularize it early in the 20th century. it will feel weird for awhile to switch but if you sre in highschool then you have plenty of time to beat balls so it will feel fine after a couple of days. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Two of the most popular grips in golf are the interlocking and overlap grips, but many seem to sleep on the baseball/ten finger grip. The Perfect Golf Swing describes the overlap grip as follows: the characteristic feature of the Vardon overlap grip is the overlap of the right 5th finger over the left fingers, usually resting in the groove between the left second finger and left third finger. You don't see a lot of tour pros using it. When I gripped a ladies club my right hand naturally goes more over the top. The driver had become nothing more than a violent smothered hook which would never stay in play. What Are the Advantages of Using the Interlocking Golf Grip?.   You cannot paste images directly. MagnoliaGolfer   Your link has been automatically embedded. The first teaching pro I went to had me switch to the interlocking grip. And the club isnt moving when you are getting your grip. Click HERE for more School of Golf content. It is also known as the baseball grip, because all 10 fingers are on the golf club. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport. As with the traditional Vardon grip, the left thumb runs straight down the shaft -- or just right of center -- and the right thumb rests on top of the left. It's a personal choice and I'd say if you're playing well with it stick to it. Good luck! He is super anal about grip and even he could show me ( me being a jackass that cannot look at someones grip and copy it just by looking ). Natural Golf’s original clubs were three inches longer than conventional golf clubs – and they taught that hands on the club were split a few inches. I was always curious if I was the last golfer using this grip. if the answer is yes, then go for it, although it doesn't hurt getting some opinions. Tried 10 finger embarrased to say and it felt the best since all fingers are on the grip and none of them are squished together but the problem is i can't get the hands too close to each other because all 10 fingers are on the grip. good luck. - G. I have been toying with the idea of the ten finger grip. The 10-finger golf grip, also called the baseball grip, can be a good choice for children and for adults with arthritis or other hand ailments. The only way is what works best for you. save. I had been pulling my irons due too strong right hand. I may try to overlap my left index finger over my right pinky (righty) instead of the classic vardon grip with the right pinky over the left index.   Pasted as rich text. che desideri...." Interlocking Vs 10 Finger Golf Grip. It's just a different feel---more into the right hand--naturally. "They always refer to the baseball grip for golf but never the golfers grips for baseball..Why? not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. People with weaker hands and forearms may also benefit from the 10-finger grip. (The overlap grip is very uncomfortable for me). I'm thinking of switching from the 10 finger to the overlap grip. RIZZO66, on 20 June 2008 - 09:24 PM, said: Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: 2012 GolfWRX Holdings Inc. My daughter switched to 10 finger about 5 years ago and hits the ball solid with it - every time a instructor tries to talk her out of it she starts having problems controlling the club and when she switches back it is solid again- if it works stay with it. This is feasible, as kids usually adapt swing and setup changes fairly easily as compared to adults. I used it for a few months but never became accustomed to it. Golfers who use the overlap grip tend to have larger hands. The far and away most consistent golfer I know has a home made swing and 10 finger grip. Some beginners find this to be the most uncomfortable of the three grips. If done correctly, the separation of the hands is hardly noticeable and has little effect. What is it? I do still have a 10 finger grip. If you are new to golf, you have very likely been told to hold the golf club with all ten fingers. 26 comments. One thing I do better with the 10 finger, for some reason, is maintain my left hand grip pressure throughout. Speaking from experience and knowledge you have to try for yourself and compare the difference in what each grip does in terms of feel and ball flight. Had more hockey, baseball and lacrosse in mind but I suppose you are right. PING Glide 52*SS 58*WS 60*TS I'm thinking of switching from the 10 finger to the overlap grip. Anyone know anything about this? But regardless my biggest thing is, can the 10 finger grip be as consistent as the interlocking\overlap. After 15 years, I switched from overlap to interlocking about a month ago. The Vardon grip is a type of finger placement that a golfer can use to hold a golf club in his hands. I've tried to switch away from it before but I always go back. not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. Switch was fairly easy to stay with. [/quote] Bottom line, if it works for you don't change what you're doing. [/quote] Upload or insert images from URL. 10 Finger Golf Grip. Eventually a few people said don't worry about it and some said change it. There are three basic types of golf grips: the overlapping, interlocking and 10-finger grips. Also known as the overlap grip the Vardon grip is named after the famous golfer Harry Vardon who helped popularize it early in the 20th century. The reverse overlap gives him that extra feel and control in his right palm." [the “baseball” grip (holding what appears to be a putter)] The “baseball grip,” as the 10-finger grip is also known, is frowned upon because it requires more of a commitment to move the arms correctly in a swing. The Interlocking Grip – Which Is Best? What is it? FOOOOOORE at Fenway Park.? You can post now and register later. This can slow down acceleration in the swing. Ten finger grip on the golf club. However, two are the most used/popular. This is feasible, as kids usually adapt swing and setup changes fairly easily as compared to adults. You currently have javascript disabled. Try doing either the overlap or the interlock. Everyone sees me as some sort of amomoly or something. If your grip is working for you, I wouldn't necessarily change it - however, if you decide to change your grip, I recommend practicing it every day in your spare time, just by picking up the club while watching tv even, and that will make the transition to whatever grip you choose easier. Overall, I'd say you must make some adjustments if switching to 10 finger, but once you figure them out, it's as good as any grip for me.I do believe that I have more feel for the clubhead all the way thru the swing and thru impact. You have to live with the results, so no one can tell you what is right for you. What do you use? The grip is, obviously, about the relationship of the hands and consequently, the fingers. Clear editor. The 10 Finger Grip: ... often abandoned by most golfers within the first week to one year of starting the game when they move to improve their golf grip for better control. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. If you use the ten finger grip, look at it as an advantage because you would never be able to hit or control a baseball bat effectively with an overlapping grip or interlocking grip. Titleist 915 18*/Fubuki K 80X The interlocking golf grip has its pros and cons over the 10-finger or baseball golf grip. The third way, would be to have all 10 fingers on the club, much like a baseball grip. Always used 10 fingered grip and played off scratch from 95-02, basically play what works and feels right. I was just going to post this question as I play a 10 finger grip. Okay everyone, we all know this was gonna happen eventually. I play the baseball grip out of necessity. I have long fingers as well, the solution to that is to have your grips wrapped (under the grips they use tap) with a couple of extra wraps to build them up so they feel correct. Also I have taken lessons from 5 different ppl and not one has ask me to change from 10 finger. Vokey Cold Forged 52/10 It worked okay for a while but eventually changed to an interlocking then back to overlapping. The interlock is a variation to the traditional Vardon grip, in which the right pinky -- for a right-handed golfer -- rests over the left index finger behind the shaft. I can use multiple grips at any time and so can you if you give each some time and pay attention to how they affect your body and flight of the ball. Most players that use the ten-finger will have smaller hands. This grip places the club in the fingers and is the grip most likely to be taught by golf … Odyssey #9 O-Works. 10 Finger Golf Grip Vs. Driver: TaylorMade M1 9.5* Fujikura Pro60 S Started December 17, 2020, [color=#000000][b]I am not brand loyal. If it is belting it down with rain and the club slips I use an interlock and a clean handkerchief. If you have small hands, go with more of an interlock. If the pinkie is not long and strong enough the golfers risks seeing it slip out of position during the golf swing, rather than staying securely in place. The interlocking golf grip has its pros and cons over the 10-finger or baseball golf grip. Paste as plain text instead, × Baseball is different than 10 finger in that with 10 finger you're still placing your left thumb (righty) as you would with an overlap or interlock and placing the lifeline of your right hand (righty) over that thumb. In my mind it is more importand to have a neutral grip with both hands working together than anything else. × 10 finger grip here. I broke my left index finger a month ago and it required surgery, so this may be my only option, for the first few months of the season anyway. We have put together some information to […] A picture of the grip is shown on the right. Edel 50*/KBS 610 S To do the overlap grip, first, grab the club as you would for the baseball grip. 10 Finger Grip (Baseball) vs Interlocking\Overlapping, 2021 Callaway Epic Speed Max - Leaked Photo, 2021 Srixon ZX5, ZX7 (1020 Endo Forged) & ZX U Irons- New Pics Added Pg 3 w/ Comparisons, Autoflex sf505, Mavrik 10.5 Custom Black, Tour AD HD 6s, Crazy Boron, Putters For Sale - TaylorMade Spider X Navy and Scotty Cameron Futura 5S, Tour Issue Epic Flash SZ 10.5, SM8 54F, Cleveland Premier 11, BRAND NEW Peter Millar Shorts W38, Travis Pants W40, Lot of 6 Pairs of Shorts-Footjoy and Adidas-Size 34. I'm glad that I'm back. So as long as the two "v's" created by your thumb and index finger are pointed around your right shoulder/collarbone go for it. not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. Wilson Staff V4 5 and 6/Aerotech Fibersteel 110 S A few weeks ago, I tried the interlocking grip for roughly 2 weeks, swing felt decent, but i do have problems with the right hand pinky. Titleist 913 Hybrid 21*/Tour Blue 105X (Matt Jones' club) (OR) TM Burner 4-iron/Aldila RIP 115 Tour S Discussion about the golf grip can be divided into two categories – how your hands form the grip, and the actual grip on your club. Overlap has 9 fingers on the handle all on left hand and four on the right. The Vardon Overlap grip, sometimes called the Overlapping Grip, is the most common grip among great players. A question about grip for y'all: 10 fingered vs. overlap. The overlap golf grip is a great solution to that problem of hand separation. To Heck with the USGA. [quote name='Dinosaur' timestamp='1421689764' post='10776881'] The far and away most consistent golfer I know has a home made swing and 10 finger grip. Me as a teacher, personally, dont care how you hold the club as long as the placement is correct in you hands. Baseball Grip – 10 Finger Golf Grip. Adams PNT v1 18* and v2 22* The Baseball Grip. Great question. Outlaw Golf Association Glad I'm not. Harry Vardon popularized this grip around the turn of the 20th Century. It worked okay for a while but eventually changed to an interlocking then back to overlapping. Also tried out the 10 finger today at the range. The Vardon grip is a type of finger placement that a golfer can use to hold a golf club in his hands. Click HERE for more School of Golf content. It is also known as the baseball grip, because all 10 fingers are on the golf club. Every club in the bag was going left of the target line, in some cases rather violently as the loft decreased in the clubs. 10 Finger Golf Grip Vs. 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